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Dalhousie University halts Saint John cardiac training after students allege harassment

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Dalhousie University has pulled all medical students and post-graduate trainees from any cardiac training at the Saint John Regional Hospital and┬аNew Brunswick Heart Centre┬аafter some┬аcomplained┬аabout alleged harassment and the learning environment, CBC News has┬аlearned.

Students and trainees┬аwere notified nearly seven months ago┬аof the “pause” to “address issues.”

“As of Nov. 10th at 5 pm, placement of learners on [the cardiac care unit] and other cardiology related clinical teaching experiences in Saint John will be stopped,” an internal memo, obtained by CBC News,┬аsaid.

“Learner feedback has highlighted concerns┬атАж about behaviours in the environment consistent with intimidation/harassment/racism/sexism,” as well as the level of supervision of learners, especially on call, it said.

No information about the number of complainants, or the accused has been released.

“We were notified that essentially Dalhousie was removing all of its learners тАФ so that would be undergraduate medical students,” completing the third and fourth years of their medical degree, confirmed┬аBen Peterson, president of the Dalhousie Medical Students’ Society, a group┬аwhich┬аrepresents about 550 undergraduates between the Saint John and Halifax sites. Also┬аincluded were┬аgraduates completing their specialized training, known as residents.┬а

When something comes across your email and it says, you know, ‘Effective immediately, students are not to be in the space,’ I think that┬аthe gravity and the seriousness comes across.– Ben Peterson, Dalhousie Medical Students’ Society president

“And we were made aware at that time that it was due to an investigation into some essentially┬атАж┬аalleged harassment towards learners,” he said.

“I don’t know the details┬аbut I think for me, when something comes across your email and it says, you know, ‘Effective immediately, students are not to be in the space,’ I think that┬аthe gravity and the seriousness comes across.”

Environment can be ‘harsh’

Medical resident Mario Jones, who will be starting his first year of training in internal medicine in Saint John,┬аwith his first planned cardiology rotation in about four to six months,┬аagrees the medical students and residents┬аweren’t given “a whole lot of information” about the allegations.

Jones,┬а31, of Blacks Harbour, previously trained┬аas a nurse┬аand spent two or three months at the New Brunswick Heart Centre.

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Mario Jones says Dalhousie University notified undergraduates and residents in November it was pulling them from cardiology-related clinical training at the Saint John Regional Hospital and the New Brunswick Heart Centre to investigate alleged harassment reported by some students.

While his experience┬аwas a positive one,┬а“To say that the environment can be difficult at times, maybe even harsh, I don’t think that’s going too far,” he said.

“But I think that the staff┬аand, you know, the physicians are very much interested in making that a more welcoming environment and having the learners back as soon as possible.”

Takes allegations seriously

Dalhousie officials declined an interview. Instead, Jason Bremner, spokesperson for the university’s faculty of medicine, emailed a statement.

“Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick takes all allegations of harassment seriously,” he said, but “can’t comment on specific allegations due to privacy considerations.”

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Dalhousie University is committed to providing learners and faculty with an environment free of harassment and mistreatment, said spokesperson Jason Bremner. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

Last year, the university launched an┬аoffice of professional affairs┬аto investigate complaints of mistreatment from students and┬аresidents. Incidents┬аcan be┬аreported anonymously┬аthrough an online portal.

Horizon Health Network officials also declined an interview. In an emailed statement,┬аDr. Susan Brien, senior vice-president, medical, academic and research affairs, said Horizon “takes seriously any allegations of workplace harassment,” but declined┬аfurther comment, referring to the situation as “an internal matter.”

Status of investigation unclear

Neither Bremner nor Brien responded to questions about the status of the investigation or any disciplinary action.

Dr. Jean-Fran├зois L├йgar├й, interim medical director and clinical head of cardiac surgery for the┬аNew Brunswick Heart Centre, did not agree to an interview but told CBC he is “unaware of any formal investigation into harassment.” He did not respond to a request for clarification of what he meant by “formal.”

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Dr. Jean-Fran├зois L├йgar├й, interim medical director of the┬аNew Brunswick Heart Centre, said patient care continues to be their focus. (Submitted by Dr. Jean-Fran├зois L├йgar├й)

“As for the decision from Dalhousie they are likely in a better position to answer your [questions],” L├йgar├й said in an emailed statement.

“Our focus at the New Brunswick Heart Centre remains patient care and more importantly has not been impacted by Dalhousie’s decision,” he said, without responding┬аto further questions.

Dr. Laurie Potter, registrar of the┬аNew Brunswick College of Physicians and Surgeons, the regulatory body for┬аprovince’s doctors, did not respond to┬аrequests for comment.

The advocacy group for medical residents, Maritime Resident Doctors,┬аdeclined to comment. “We don’t have anything to add to this story at this time,” said spokesperson Daniel Bonner.

Students surprised by removal

Peterson, who just completed his second year of study and has not yet begun his clinical years,┬аsaid there are roughly 20 Dalhousie students rotating through various departments at┬аthe Saint John Regional Hospital at any given time.

The students typically spend 10 to 12 weeks in each department, such as internal medicine, which includes the cardiac care unit, and surgery, which┬аincludes┬аthe New Brunswick Heart Centre,┬аthe province’s only tertiary cardiac care centre.

When Dalhousie notified the medical students and residents┬аit┬аwas halting the cardiac rotations in Saint John, “there was some surprise,”┬аsaid Peterson.

“I don’t think students ever expected to be, you know, taken out of the learning environment.”

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Ben Peterson, president of the Dalhousie Medical Students’ Society, said he believes med students feel more comfortable reporting workplace misconduct now that they can do so via a confidential online portal. (Alexandria Ruigrok)

It hasn’t been easy for students, said Peterson.┬аThe transition from classroom-centred learning to workplace-centred learning is often already a difficult one for many, he said.

“To have all of those extra layers added on around maybe a workplace that doesn’t always function as it’s intended to, I think it is stressful for a lot of students.”

Knowing that the university is taking the allegations┬аseriously helps, said Peterson.

‘Crown jewel’ of training program

Jones said it’s a big loss┬аto the province’s teaching program.┬аThe New Brunswick Heart Centre is widely regarded as the “crown jewel”┬аand the reason many students choose to study here, he said.

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Dalhousie Medicine New Brunswick admits 40 New Brunswick students each year, giving them the opportunity to study medicine┬аat a number of┬аteaching sites in the province, including Saint John. (CBC)

It has “all kinds of patients that have many different conditions with their hearts going on.”┬аIt’s also one of the very few places in the country that does cardiac catheterizations and cardiac surgery.

“Most places that do these two procedures and all the things that go along with it are a whole lot larger than Saint John.┬аAnd so we’re really fortunate to have this sort of thing.”

Students given other options

Dalhousie has given students the option to do a cardiac rotation at another site, such as the Moncton Hospital,┬аor to spend that period with another specialty, said Peterson.

The university has also provided the medical students’ society with some brief updates and he’s satisfied with the progress so far, he said.

“Our mandate is to make sure that students get the teaching that they need, that they get that teaching in a safe learning environment where they are respected and they are able to learn.

“So when the university, you know, comes to us and says, ‘Here are contingency plans that we’ve put in place to make sure that we meet those outcomes,’ that’s sort of where our box is ticked.”

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Mario Jones said the internal medicine program normally includes a lot of overnight call to staff the heart centre, which is ‘not everyone’s favourite bit,’ but provides a lot of hands-on training, enabling residents to be proficient in handling various cardiac conditions. (Submitted by Mario Jones)

Jones is also confident students will get the training they need, but remains hopeful his Saint John cardiac rotation will proceed as scheduled.

“There’s a lot of really great doctors there that have been teaching for quite a long time and have taught a lot of the doctors┬аNew Brunswick has now.┬атАж┬аAnd you know┬аthat they see the value in teaching,” he said.

“It’s not so long ago that these same folks were in my shoes, you know, starting off their training programs. So I’m sure that we’ll get back to business in a respectful manner sooner than later.”

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